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		<title>Can I use DWS with Grade 5&#8242;s?</title>
		<link>http://disciplineanswers.com/discipline-intermediate-students/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: Do you feel I can implement this successfully with 5th graders or is it geared more to the lower grades? RESPONSE: DWS is very effective with grade fives! Dr. Marshall first developed this approach for middle and high school students. It&#8217;s since been adapted for use with younger students in intermediate and primary grades––although [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>QUESTION:</strong><br />
Do you feel I can implement this successfully with 5th graders or is it geared more to the lower grades?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>RESPONSE:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">DWS is very effective with grade fives!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Dr. Marshall first developed this approach for middle and high school students. It&#8217;s since been adapted for use with younger students in intermediate and primary grades<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">––</span>although the only real adaptations are in terms of vocabulary.  At every grade level the teacher explains the same four levels, but chooses words that are suited to the age and ability of their particular students.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Choosing appropriate vocabulary to explain DWS concepts would be much like what teachers would naturally do when students learn about any new or challenging topic.  For instance, students of any age might ask about global warming or other current events such as the HINI flu epidemic.  At various grade levels, teachers would respond with slightly different explanations depending on the age/maturity level of their students.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The older the child the easier it is to teach concepts, simply because children become more capable in their thinking as they grow.  You will find that it&#8217;s very easy to explain the four DWS levels to grade five students and to implement the approach as a whole with this age group;  it will make a lot of sense to them.</p>
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		<title>Does it matter what kind of home a child is from?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: Do you think it makes any difference to the success of the DWS program what kind of home the child is from, or what methods the rest of the faculty uses for discipline? DR. MARSHALL&#8217;S RESPONSE: Re:  Home Life Focus on the behavior––not the &#8220;why&#8221; for the behavior.  Regardless of the &#8220;why,&#8221; everyone still [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>QUESTION:</strong><br />
 Do you think it makes any difference to the success of the <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/">DWS program</a> what kind of home the child is from, or what methods the rest of the faculty uses for discipline?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>DR. MARSHALL&#8217;S RESPONSE:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Re:  Home Life</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Focus on the behavior<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">––</span>not the &#8220;why&#8221; for the behavior.  Regardless of the &#8220;why,&#8221; everyone still has the freedom to choose their response to any situation, stimulus, or urge.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Simply put, expect your students to act in appropriate ways. Let them  know that if they don&#8217;t, they are the victims of their impulses. Not  even young children want to be victims.  (View <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/resources/posters.html">DWS Impulse Poster</a>.)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Re: Other Teachers</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">You can be the only one at school using the  program and the learning climate of your class changes. (Of course, the entire culture of the school changes if the system is adopted school wide.)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>A related post:</strong><a href="http://disciplineanswers.com/dws-impulse-poster/"> Using the DWS Impulse Poster</a></p>
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		<title>Do weekly behavior reports match the DWS approach?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[B. General Questions]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: I want to implement DWS in my classroom this year. My concern is the fact that I&#8217;m required to send home weekly behavior reports rating behavior, completed work, homework etc.  Do weekly reports match this approach? RESPONSE: DWS is based on promoting internal assessments––students reflecting on their own behavior. Typically, schools that use daily/weekly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>QUESTION:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I want to implement DWS in my classroom this year. My concern is the fact that I&#8217;m required to send home weekly behavior reports rating behavior, completed work, homework etc.  Do weekly reports match this approach?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>RESPONSE:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/">DWS</a> is based on promoting <em>internal </em>assessments<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">––</span>students reflecting on their own behavior. Typically, schools that use daily/weekly reports base them on <em>external</em> assessments by the teacher.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The DWS <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/hierarchy.htm">Hierarchy</a> is meant as a tool of self-assessment.  Its intended purpose is for an individual to use it to <em>assess their own behavior</em>. It&#8217;s not intended to be used by a teacher to report on a child. Although reporting to parents is part of our teaching job, the DWS level chart is not the best tool for assessing someone (other than yourself.)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Here&#8217;s one important reason:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The top two levels (<em>both acceptable</em>) are defined by motivation. Motivation involves what the child is <strong>thinking </strong>more than it does their actions. We can&#8217;t see what other people are thinking. Operation at Level C and D often look the same to an observer. If you walk into a classroom where everyone is on task and working, you wouldn&#8217;t know which students were operating on Level C and which ones were operating on Level D. Those operating on Level C are keeping themselves on track <em>because the teacher is in the room</em>, while those operating on Level D keep themselves on task <em>whether the teacher is in the room or not</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Another example:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If you witness a child doing something kind for another student, you couldn&#8217;t know for sure on which level they were operating<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">––</span>Level C or D?  Is the child genuinely <em>wanting</em> to be kind (D)? or is the child <em>acting</em> kind, in hopes of receiving a birthday party invitation or perhaps impressing someone else (C)?  While we <em>can</em> accurately assess our <span style="text-decoration: underline;">own</span> motivations (as long as we choose to look with honesty,) we can only <em>guess</em> at the motivations of others.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If children are aware that they will be marked on a report card with the DWS levels, then it could easily change their motivation level<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">––</span>to something lower!  A child who normally would be operating in a genuine way (Level D) may be influenced to put on an act (Level C) simply to impress the teacher in hopes of being marked as Level D. This is counterproductive to the whole purpose of DWS.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Therefore, a different tool is needed to report to parents; a tool that describes only <em>observable behaviors</em> and not motivation levels. If you want to stay true to the DWS philosophy<span style="font-family: mceinline;">––</span>but must also meet school requirements for weekly reports<span style="font-family: mceinline;">––</span>use a different assessment tool designed for that purpose. For instance, sending a report home about homework and completed class work is straightforward<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">. E</span>ither the work is done, or not; this is very easy to assess through observation.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">As I said, behavior is a trickier matter, but can be externally assessed by using a tool that allows you to assess whether <em>observable</em> behavior is <em>appropriate</em><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">––</span>or not.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">A related posting</span>:</em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a title="Permanent Link: Isn’t it contradictory to use a “color change board” and posted consequences with DWS?" rel="bookmark" href="http://disciplineanswers.com/discipline-behavior-boards/">Isn’t it contradictory to use a “color change board” and posted consequences with DWS?</a></p>
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		<title>Help!  I&#8217;m expected to post rules, consequences and rewards!</title>
		<link>http://disciplineanswers.com/classroom-discipline-plans/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[B. General Questions]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: I have a problem.  My entire school district has been requested to update our classroom discipline plans for review by the new superintendent before the end of August.  My principal knows how I feel about the punitive discipline approach used across our district.  Last year he allowed me leeway––I didn&#8217;t have to post rules, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>QUESTION:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I have a problem.  My entire school district has been requested to update our classroom discipline plans for review by the new superintendent before the end of August.  My principal knows how I feel about the punitive discipline approach used across our district.  Last year he allowed me leeway<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">––</span>I didn&#8217;t have to post rules, consequences, rewards. However, with this latest pressure, he told me that I will have to comply with the new superintendent&#8217;s wishes.  I am wondering if there&#8217;s any way of making DWS &#8220;look&#8221; like a conventional discipline plan without &#8220;being&#8221; a conventional plan!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>RESPONSE:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Well, it&#8217;s tough to take two opposite approaches and make one look like the other, BUT<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">––</span>survival seems key in a case like yours!   Maybe this might work:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Post classroom <span style="text-decoration: underline;">expectations</span> or <span style="text-decoration: underline;">standards</span>, <em>instead of rules.</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In this <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/pdf/promoting_learning/rules-vs-expectations.pdf">article</a>, Dr. Marshall describes how standards differ from rules.  He explains:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em>&#8220;Standards engender student empowerment. They promote an esprit de corps in the classroom, similar to what occurs with any team. Standards serve as expectations, and expectations are responsibility lifting. They tap into internal motivation and foster commitment, rather than compliance.&#8221; </em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">He gives two examples of classroom standards that could be posted:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px; text-align: left;">• Do my work <br />
 • Have materials <br />
 • Be where I belong <br />
 • Control myself <br />
 • Follow directions</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px; text-align: left;"> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px; text-align: left;">• Speak considerately <br />
 • Be prompt <br />
 • Bring materials <br />
 • Listen for instructions <br />
 • Honor self and others <br />
 • Accept ownership of my choices</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px; text-align: left;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2. </strong><strong>Describe how students are held accountable for consequences in your room, with a statement such as the following:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 60px;">Consequences will be elicited from students as necessary, and directly tied to each particular situation.</p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 60px;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3.  Describe the rewards your students will reap from choosing to be motivated <em>internally</em>:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 60px;">Students will be encouraged to reflect on the satisfying inner rewards that accompany responsible and high level behavior.  Encouragement and acknowledgement will be given every day!</p>
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		<title>I&#8217;ve read mixed reviews about DWS.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[B. General Questions]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: I&#8217;ve  just ordered Dr. Marshall&#8217;s book.  I have read mixed reviews online but mostly everyone says positive things about DWS. RESPONSE: This is just a guess, but I would say that those who who feel they didn&#8217;t have much success with the DWS approach may have misunderstood the goal of the program or may [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>QUESTION:<br />
 <span style="font-weight: normal;">I&#8217;ve  just ordered Dr. Marshall&#8217;s book.  I have read mixed reviews online but mostly everyone says positive things about DWS.</span></strong></p>
<div style="text-align: left;"><strong>RESPONSE:</strong></div>
<div style="text-align: left;">This is just a guess, but I would say that those who who feel they didn&#8217;t have much success with the DWS approach may have misunderstood the goal of the program or may not have spent adequate time to study the entire <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/teaching_model.html">Teaching Model</a> before they began to implement  it.</div>
<div style="text-align: left;"></div>
<div style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;m not sure why, but sometimes people have the mistaken impression that this program promises that once you introduce your students to the concept of being internally motivated, you won&#8217;t have any more discipline problems. Of course, this perception sets them up for great disappointment!  This approach doesn&#8217;t promise a complete end to discipline problems. Instead what it does promise is a roadmap<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-family: helvetica;">(that doesn&#8217;t rely on</span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> rewards or punishments,) </span>to guide teachers in dealing with students who have discipline problems. <span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span>That&#8217;s the <em>real</em> goal.</div>
<div style="text-align: left;"></div>
<div style="text-align: left;">One unique thing about this approach is that you can also use the same roadmap to benefit students who <em>don&#8217;t </em>have discipline problems. These kids grow amazingly with this program because they are given an opportunity to learn the value of becoming internally motivated. This is one of the main reasons I love this approach&#8211;it elevates <strong>everyone</strong>. Unlike most other discipline plans I read about, it&#8217;s not just focused on stopping unwanted classroom behavior. It&#8217;s focused on teaching students (of any age) about the highest level of human behavior&#8211;that which is internally motivated, that which comes straight from the heart!</div>
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<p>It gives students concrete information that will allow them to consciously understand they always have choices in life. Each and every moment we are making choices, the results of which gradually but surely determine the quality of our lives. To me, this is perhaps the best feature of DWS: I can give my students a method for assessing choices on a moment to moment basis. (Notice I didn&#8217;t say that this approach ensures that they will always <strong>make</strong> the highest choice. That&#8217;s not a realistic goal. Instead my goal is to provide them with a tool that will allow them to make decisions <em>for themselves</em>&#8211;knowing full well their <strong>range</strong> of choices.)</p>
<p>Some teachers are interested in taking time to learn how to use DWS well and others are more focused on just finding some new trick that they hope will easily ensure the obedience of their students. Those who are simply looking for a quick trick often try out only <strong>parts </strong>of the Teaching Model&#8211;the parts that deal with actual discipline situations. They ignore the most important steps in the Teaching Model&#8211;the steps that would proactively give them the eventual success they are looking for and then wonder why they don&#8217;t see much success with the program.</p>
<p>The more that I work with this approach, the more I realize that it&#8217;s the first two parts of the program that make the biggest difference in creating a classroom that runs smoothly and encourages students to become self-disciplined.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">PART ONE</span> of the DWS Teaching Model explains the importance of good classroom management (<a href="http://disciplineanswers.com/classroom-management-discipline/">which is different than student discipline</a>.) In other words, a lot of discipline problems are actually <strong>created</strong> when teachers don&#8217;t proactively set up classroom routines and consistently have students practice them (with the expectation that they should be followed.) This is another DWS idea that I find very exciting and helpful<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">––</span>I can use <strong>procedures</strong> to teach students in a positive way to operate at an acceptable level of behavior (Level C in DWS language.)</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">PART TWO</span> of the Teaching Model involves a study of three principles; positivity, choice and reflection. Each year I understand better how these principles can help me create a classroom environment where students are happy to take on more personal responsibility.</p>
<p>Learning to use DWS is a journey. Think of it in that way and you&#8217;ll find encouraging successes right from the start as you start to implement each smaller part of the overall plan!   If you have found value in being internally motivated <em><strong>yourself</strong></em>, you will be able to get the ideas of DWS across to your students!</p>
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		<title>How do you deal with discipline BEFORE you&#8217;ve taught the Hierarchy?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[B. General Questions]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: What do you do if you have a problem with a child on the second day of school, before you’ve introduced the Hierarchy levels? RESPONSE: Don’t forget that Step One of the Teaching Model is Classroom Management. By proactively teaching specific procedures for everything you want your students to do, you will be able [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>QUESTION:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What do you do if you have a problem with a child on the second day of school, <em>before</em> you’ve introduced the Hierarchy levels?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>RESPONSE:</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Don’t forget that Step One of the <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/teaching_model.html">Teaching Model</a> is Classroom Management. By proactively teaching specific procedures for everything you want your students to do, you will be able to deal with many so called &#8220;discipline problems&#8221; simply by teaching, re-teaching and practicing procedures.  Maintain the mindset that most students will require at least 8 teachings of a procedure in order for it to become habit.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In the case of a true discipline problem that arises on the first days of school, you can employ the <a href="http://disciplineanswers.com/three-teaching-principles/">Three Principles</a> of DWS:</p>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>keep your focus in the situation <span style="text-decoration: underline;">positive</span>&#8211;look for solutions,</li>
</ul>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>ensure that the misbehaving student has some <span style="text-decoration: underline;">choice</span> in finding a solution;</li>
</ul>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">ask</span> questions to encourage a student to think about whether or not what they are doing is actually going to pay off for them or not.</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;">Although not ideal, you can also implement the two last <a href="http://disciplineanswers.com/overview-raise-responsibility/">phases</a> of the RRSystem&#8211;even before you have taught the Hierarchy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Here&#8217;s how:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Phase Two &#8211; Checking For Understanding</span><br />
Even though students wouldn&#8217;t know about the levels on the first day of school, you can still ask a child to evaluate whether he/she is operating on a <em>high</em> or <em>low</em> level.  I find that even young children instinctively know what you mean by &#8220;behavior at a high or low level&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">For example:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;">&#8220;Is grabbing a toy from someone, a high level thing to do&#8230; or is it a low level thing to do?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Once a student has acknowledged that grabbing a toy is at a low level, that may be the end of it.  Often, this type of discussion is all that&#8217;s needed.  For others, you might need to ask them a few more questions. For a very few children, you may need to ask several increasingly more pointed questions:</p>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>&#8220;You said that grabbing a toy is a low level thing to do.  Can you explain to me why you think that?&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>&#8220;How do you think these other kids near you feel when they see you grabbing toys?   Will they want to play with someone who might grab their toys?&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>Look at Andrew&#8217;s face&#8230;. How does he feel about having his toy grabbed away?</li>
</ul>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>What is a teacher&#8217;s job if someone is grabbing toys at play time?</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Phase Three &#8211; Guided Choices</span><br />
There&#8217;s no pat formula for this phase, so depending on the child and type or severity of misbehavior, here are some possibilities:</p>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>You can help the child to come up with a procedure that will allow them better deal with a similar situation in the future.  In this case, procedures for sharing would probably help.</li>
</ul>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>You can still go through a process of eliciting choices (or suggesting choices, if necessary.)   Remember that this phase is used ONLY with those who <em>continue</em> to act inappropriately,  after they have acknowledged a low level.</li>
</ul>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>You can ask questions that put the responsibility on the child:  &#8220;What do <em>you</em> think should happen IF you should do this same kind of thing again?&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;">It&#8217;s certainly possible and worthwhile to build Hierarchy understandings for children, even before you&#8217;ve had an opportunity to formally introduce the actual levels.  Now that we are more experienced with DWS, my teaching partner and I try to word all our everyday classroom talk in a DWS way.  For example, right off the bat, we use the language of the Hierarchy even though we don&#8217;t actually refer to the four levels.  In this way, we can build some understanding of the levels, even before we have time to teach the Hierarchy itself.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">For example:</p>
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<li> On the first day when we introduce procedures for sharing and playing appropriately at centers (Level C,) we sometimes contrast them with examples of &#8220;unacceptable behavior&#8221; such as hoarding toys, running in in the classroom, or talking with outdoor voices (Level B.)</li>
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<li>We talk about what an &#8220;acceptable level of behavior&#8221; would look like at lunch time (using eating manners, following lunchtime procedures such as sitting while eating, and remaining in desks until the bell rings etc.)  This is Level C.</li>
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<li>We discuss the importance of learning to &#8220;work on your own without waiting for a teacher to direct you&#8221; and we talk about how great it feels &#8220;to count on yourself to be able to listen well and so know what you need to do next in the lesson&#8221;.  This is language describing Level D.</li>
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<p style="text-align: left;">After a week or two in school,   we hook these understandings to the four levels of the Hierarchy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em>A related posting:</em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a title="Permanent Link: When do you introduce the Hierarchy?" rel="bookmark" href="http://disciplineanswers.com/introduce-the-dws-hierarchy/">When do you introduce the Hierarchy?</a></p>
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		<title>Is giving grades discouraged in this system?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: I am very new to the DWS mailring. I&#8217;ll be a 2nd year teacher this coming school year and will be implementing this system in my classroom. I did have a concern about grades. Would you please review Dr. Marshall&#8217;s views on grades and how they are related to competition? If he discourages grades, [...]]]></description>
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<p>I am very new to the <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Disciplinewithoutstress/">DWS mailring</a>.  I&#8217;ll be a 2nd year teacher this coming school year and will be implementing this system in my classroom. I did have a concern about grades. Would you please review Dr. Marshall&#8217;s views on grades and how they are related to competition? If he discourages grades, how would a teacher handle that in his/her classroom, given the requirements for grades and report cards, etc. from the school administration and parents?</p>
<p>RESPONSE:</p>
<p>Dr. Marshall doesn&#8217;t suggest that grades not be given.  Grading is a mandatory part of our teaching job.</p>
<p>He does point out that competition is counterproductive when it comes to learning.  See the article, <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/articles/articles_learning.htm">Collaboration-Rather than Competition&#8211;for Quality Learning</a> by scrolling down on the page.</p>
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		<title>Is DWS ever implemented in high school?</title>
		<link>http://disciplineanswers.com/discipline-young-adults/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[B. General Questions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[F. Improving Academics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[I. For High Schools]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: Does anyone know if DWS is ever implemented in high school? I teach high school Leadership classes and I think high schoolers need these things even more immediately than little ones. The real world is going to require self-discipline of them, real soon! Raising their responsibility is exactly what high school kids need. Most [...]]]></description>
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<p>Does anyone know if DWS is ever implemented in high school? I teach high school Leadership classes and I think high schoolers need these things even more immediately than little ones. The real world is going to require self-discipline of them, real soon!  Raising their responsibility is <em>exactly</em> what high school kids need. Most of the discussions I hear about the system seemed aimed at younger children, though presumably they should be applicable to older students as well.  I would like any tips, or even encouragement for using this in high school.</p>
<p>RESPONSE:</p>
<p>The DWS approach was developed when the author, Dr. Marvin Marshall, was teaching in a high school setting.  It&#8217;s been adapted <em>for primary</em> , not the other way around. Often primary teachers initially have the opposite question.  Knowing that this system has been originally developed for use in high schools, they wonder if it can be used with younger students!</p>
<p>Part One of the article, <a href="http://www.pdkintl.org/kappan/k0403mar.htm">USING A DISCIPLINE SYSTEM TO PROMOTE LEARNING</a> discusses how Dr. Marshall came to develop his approach.</p>
<p>The truth is that <strong>the approach can be implemented across the grade levels in almost an identical way</strong>.  Many times, a high school teacher can benefit from discussions among primary teachers and vice versa too!  A leadership class in particular is very much suited to ongoing discussions of the DWS Hierarchy.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right in thinking that it&#8217;s very important for young adults to have information about self-discipline, simply because they&#8217;re soon to be entering the world at large. DWS ideas can be of immediate and very real use to them.  Look at this &#8220;alarm clock hierarchy&#8221; created by high school teacher, Jim Mann.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>I use the levels to teach the importance of establishing a procedure each morning to get to school on time. I use an alarm clock analogy:</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Level D </strong>-  You set your alarm clock, wake up, and get to school on time.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Level C </strong>-  You depend on your parents to wake you up so you get to school on time.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Level B </strong>-  You ignore the alarm clock and come to school late.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Level A</strong> &#8211;  You don&#8217;t even set your alarm clock because you are only interested in what you want and do not consider how your actions affect others.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>I tell my high school students that to succeed in college, they must have motivation on Level D. Their motivation must come from within.</em></p>
<p>This is the type of down-to-earth, very practical discussions that can take place in high school.  All students can benefit from understandings like this one&#8211;simple in one way, yet leading to a much larger message of something that separates successful college students from others.  To be successful in life/college, one needs to be motivated from within.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re on the right track!   If you see the value of internal motivation for your students and understand that the difference between Levels C and D is one of the key points in the DWS approach, then you can show your students how it relates to their everyday lives.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve experienced the power of internal motivation in your own life, share your stories with students.   Look for opportunities to discuss how internal motivation helps people lead more satisfying lives, regardless of their age.  Speak with passion so that the kids see that there&#8217;s a reason to take DWS ideas to heart!</p>
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		<title>Is it possible to use both DWS AND tallies?</title>
		<link>http://disciplineanswers.com/discipline-grades-tallies/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[B. General Questions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Procedures School-wide]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION: I have often been tempted to order the Discipline without Stress book. What has held me back is my school&#8217;s requirement that we use the same discipline plan throughout the department (in my case, 4th through 6th grades.). The department has the same rules: (1) Be respectful (2) Be obedient (3) Be honest (4) [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><strong>QUESTION:</strong></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I have often been tempted to order the <a href="http://www.DisciplineWithoutStress.com/">Discipline without Stress book</a>. What has held me back is my school&#8217;s requirement that we use the same discipline plan throughout the department (in my case, 4th through 6th grades.).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The department has the same rules:<span> </span>(1) Be respectful  (2) Be obedient  (3) Be honest  (4) Be responsible.<span> </span>After the usual warning, if any rule is violated, a tally is given to the student. The number of tallies for the week determines the child&#8217;s behavior grade.<span> </span>A behavior grade must be given each week.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span>Here is my question:<span> </span>Is it feasible to use <em>both</em></span><span> this discipline plan and the DWS method or would it be too cumbersome/confusing? The one is mandatory for grades; the other, the DwStress method, would be the philosophy I choose to use in my relationships and dealings with the students.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><strong>DR. MARSHALL’S RESPONSE:</strong></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>You can do both. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Check to see if the mandatory requirements also mandate that the teacher <span>assign</span> the tallies or the grade. Chances are that you will not be violating the regulations if you instead, ELICIT the tallies and/or the grades from your students.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Just have the students evaluate themselves for the grade and submit it to you. (I used a 3 x 5 card.)<span> </span>In the vast majority of cases, the students will assign themselves the same grade you would have given them.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">AND</span></span> in cases where there is disagreement, share with the student your reasoning for your decision.</span></p>
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		<title>I would like to have my students give themselves a daily discipline mark.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Weisner</dc:creator>
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 I really like the idea of sending home a daily behavior report to parents.  Now that I am using DISCIPLINE without STRESS, I am thinking that I would like to have my students give themselves a discipline mark at the end of each day.  They could mark themselves as having operated on Level A, B, C or D for that day.  What do you think?</p>
<p>RESPONSE:<br />
 Student self-assessment is one of the key features of the DISCIPLINE without STRESS approach, however, I prefer to teach children to assess themselves&#8211;not every DAY&#8211;but EVERY MINUTE of the day!  What does this mean?</p>
<p>It means that I want them to become more aware of their own behaviour and choices from MOMENT to MOMENT.  I want to encourage them to use <a href="http://teachers.net/gazette/APR01/marshall.html">CHOICE-RESPONSE THINKING</a> in combination with the <a href="http://www.marvinmarshall.com/pdf/promoting_responsibility/levels_of_development.pdf">Hierarchy</a> to take responsibility for their actions&#8211;one action at a time.  I find that this approach provides a greater opportunity for success than trying to look at improving an ENTIRE day at a time. And of course it follows that if we concentrate on improving our life moment by moment, eventually the days improve too!</p>
<p>Another consideration is the fact that in asking students to assess themselves for the purpose of reporting to parents, we may very well affect their willingness to evaluate their own behavior honestly.  I personally prefer to have a student do this type of personal evaluation inside their own head&#8211;without asking them to share their thoughts with others.  I believe that this approach greatly increases the chance that the student will examine their own actions with honesty.  Honest evaluation often leads to positive change.</p>
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